NSY PubWatch

Several pubs in our Branch area are either closed or under threat. If you know anything about any of the pubs listed, or would like to help, please get in touch. Local press are showing an interest in issue of pub closures, so might be worth checking your local paper, or GetSurrey website. A newspaper item on one landlord’s fight to save his livelihood and local community is well worth a read. Also an item on BBC News website.

Englefield Green

Following the departure of long standing licensee Dave Lacey to warmer climes, the Monkey’s Forehead has been closed and bought by Royal Holloway College. But for a change sounds like GOOD NEWS. Following a makeover, Royal Holloway Students’ Union will run the venue which will re-open in spring under its original name, The Packhorse, which dates back to 1855. It will be run as a not-for-profit social enterprise, welcoming all to enjoy high quality food and drinks at student prices.

Further good news is that Dave’s other pub the Good Beer Guide listed  Happy Man (a previous pub of the year and regular runner up) has been bought as a going concern, and long standing manager Stef remains in place. (Jan’17)


Black Horse CLOSED Planning Permission Application Number RU.16/0094 was submitted on 18th January 2016 seeking demolition of existing public house and construction of a pair of semi detached 3 bedroomed dwellings, and 2.5 storey building comprising 4 no. 2 bedroom flats and 2 no. 1 bedroom flats. Is pub building still there? (Sep’16)


George CLOSED Sold at Auction as a ‘development opportunity’ in April 2015 and still boarded up. so not looking good. Anyone got any news?


ThamesSideLogoTwo Rivers, Church Street. After a lengthy closure the pub has had an internal refurbishment, has RE-OPENED, and is selling Thames Side beers – Result! (Apr’16)

Upper Halliford

Following various legal issues and other problems, the Bugle Returns was boarded up in November 2015. Recently rumours have circulated that might become yet another Sainsbury’s Local. Anyone got more information? Is it still there???

Pubs – Planning Issues

For most pubs, permitted development rights allow conversion of ‘drinking establishments’ (Use Class A4) to any of classes A1 (retail), A2 (professional and financial services), A3 (café/restaurant) or B1 (offices, though change of use is currently limited to two years) without a planning application having to be submitted. Alternatively, unless the pub has a heritage listing or belongs to a conservation area, an owner can simply demolish it after notifying the intention to do so.

Since April 2015, however, the nomination of any pub (A4 drinking establishment) as an Asset of Community Value (ACV) under the 2011 Localism Act has had the effect of removing permitted development rights or the ability to demolish without consultation. So for a pub that is registered as an ACV already, or potentially (decision pending), any proposal to change it into something else or to knock it down depends upon the Council’s decision on a planning application. The application will trigger consultation and the decision will also take account of the pub protection policy, if there is one….

Slightly Older Closures ….

Plough, Chertsey

Plough, Guildford Road, Chertsey c.1930

The Plough, Guildford Road, Chertsey c.1930 was demolished in 1964 to make way for a petrol station, also now gone. On the left hand side was a butcher’s shop and shoe repairer. An early example of:Pub is the Hub

Gardeners Arms, Ottershaw

Gardeners Arms, Guildford Road, Ottershaw c.1930


The Gardeners Arms was de-licenced in 1934 when, like The Plough, it became a petrol station. The site is now occupied by Trident Honda.

From ‘Chertsey & Addlestone in the Past’ by H.J.M.Stratton 1980.

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